Our Team

Rev Karla 



I am an ordained interfaith/interspiritual minister who helps people live their spiritual truth, heal from religious trauma and connect to the Divine through sacred soul work. 

As a lifelong learner, I have always sought to understand how God is revealed in the world. This led me, at age 50, to leave my Christian spiritual roots to explore spirituality in all world religions and how spirituality is experienced beyond the walls of traditional, organized religion.

After a number of years of self-study, I returned to college for Biblical studies and world religions at Indiana Wesleyan University and Arizona State University. I then attended the two-year seminary program through One Spirit Interfaith Seminary in New York, and was ordained an interfaith/interspiritual minister in 2017.

Since becoming ordained in 2017, I have offered spiritual care through in-person sessions, video conferencing and small group sessions. Recently, I made the decision to focus entirely online, as our country navigates a pandemic, by embracing the age of digital technology for human connection.

Each week, I offer writings and videos that reflect a specific theme, such as why it is okay to be spiritual but not religious, embracing change, and managing grief. These teachings are offered on social media and our website, where some videos have over 3 millions views.



Rev Arda

Director of Programs and Partnerships

After a lifelong career as an executive leader in the private sector, I decided to answer a longtime call to expand and deepen my life’s purpose. 25 years of research in consciousness, religion, philosophy and human behavior led me to enroll in an interfaith/interspiritual seminary where I went on to become the Director of Admissions post-ordination. I then joined the ministry team at the historic United Palace in NYC as the Spiritual Arts Program Director, producing and co-hosting “The Open Heart Conversations”, a program dedicated to promoting diversity and cultural bridge-building through the exploration of the world’s wisdom traditions.

Today, as a devout Humanist, I’ve dedicated my career to sociopolitical transformation and working with mission-focused, values-driven institutions in areas that include resource development and civil rights protections for LGBTQ+ youth, facilitating dialogue on intersectionality, and the empowerment of women. I’ve partnered with multiple non-profits, government organizations, diverse thought and community leaders, and multi-talented artists to raise awareness, develop programs and policies to support marginalized communities, help victims of organized religion deconstruct from toxic theology, and drive change. I also facilitate workshops for major universities and institutions to develop human potential and shift social consciousness.

Now, in joining Numa Soul, I’ve married my passion and expertise as an international businesswoman, master facilitator, inspirational speaker, writer, producer, and human rights activist to do what I feel is the most important work of my life. 



  Rev. Mary Beth

InterSpiritual Care Director


After two plus decades as a corporate marketing executive, I finally said Yes to my heart’s calling and literally turned my life upside down. I enrolled in a progressive Christian seminary where I received my Master of Divinity degree- and in the process- discerned that traditional religion was no longer the only way to connect and be in relationship with the Source of All that is: Divine Love. Continuing to listen to my inner guidance, I attended a Spiritual Counseling program where I became an InterSpiritual Counselor. InterSpiritual Counseling has become the center of my ministry and my life’s work where I am honored to journey alongside others and help guide spiritual seekers in connecting with their deepest wisdom and discover their authentic self. I serve as a spiritual counselor for individuals as well as groups, and have also trained, mentored, and supervised new students in the field.

I subsequently attended a second seminary, One Spirit, that enabled me to see and be seen as my true self. In 2017 I was ordained as an Interfaith Minister. Today as Interfaith Minister, InterSpiritual Counselor, and farmer, I live in deep relationship with the Holy, with Nature, and with the Animal Companions who fill my life with so much love. The alpacas, miniature donkeys, goats, babydoll sheep, chickens, and ducks with whom I share this sacred space have become my greatest spiritual teachers. In addition to my work as an InterSpiritual Counselor and Minister, I am a certified End-of-Life Doula, End-of-Life Pet Companion, and Reiki and Animal Reiki Practitioner. I love to facilitate groups, retreats, and workshops where we integrate eco-art, spiritual inquiry, nature exploration, and animal experiences and come to honor both who we are and who we are becoming. Through intentional presence with the Creator, Creation, and the Created, we are invited to connect to something deeper and richer in each of us- our true soul essence.





Director of Operations / LMT

I am a licensed massage therapist in the state of Indiana, and a Certified Aromatherapist recognized by The National Association for Holistic Aromatherapy and the Alliance of International Aromatherapists. 

After completing studies to earn my Bachelor’s Degree from Indiana University, I began an 11 year career in corporate management in 2003. After observing the role and effects that stress has on the body, I began to look for natural ways to support myself and my son. After experiencing the healing benefits of an aromatherapy massage and using natural solutions to help reduce the pressures of becoming a new working mother, I was determined to change career paths that would lead to more meaningful work.

I am passionate about connecting with my clients, while discovering their needs and concerns. Recommending solutions that are personalized, as opposed to offering a one size fits all solution has been my driving force. Connecting and helping clients continues to be my priority and the foundation for my work.





Graphic Design/Photography/Reflexologist

I consider myself a Hoosier even though I found my way to Bloomington, Indiana via New York City, via Kansas City—Missouri that is. Go Chiefs! It was my brother who lives in NYC, that suggested I leave Missouri and move to the Big Apple. We felt that the city would help my chances of finding an art job. We were right.

An art director at a small publishing company decided to give this Missouri girl a chance to learn graphic design on-the-job. Mind you, this was before computers. The skills that I learned have lasted a lifetime. I went on to freelance in advertising and publishing for 15 years.

After relocating to Bloomington, I happened to meet Karla Kamstra, founder of Numa Soul. We stayed in touch over the years, and when the need arrived, she offered me a design job. How lucky am I that I get to design, learn, and work with the fantastic team of women at Numa Soul.

*Plant enthusiast and rock collector.





Social Media Specialist/Digital Marketing

I graduated from Indiana University in 2018 with a degree in Media and have been working with Numa Soul ever since– creating content for both Numa Soul and Rev Karla's social media accounts and emails. Additionally, I produce YouTube videos and Rev Karla’s podcast, Spirituality Matters. In my free time, I love to be outdoors - hiking is a favorite, I’m an avid cook always trying new recipes, and whenever possible, I relax in a calming bath to unwind.